River (the software author) worked on this during his time at the Recurse Center and it’s been amazing to see him develop it all from scratch in C. (I contributed 2.5 lines of code on the web deployment/firebase side).
He’s a friend, but I am very unbiased in saying that the sample-rate execution of the entire grid seems like an incredible technical achievement.
One of the craziest (super super noisy but fascinating to watch) grids uses just a few “operators” that generate random operators and random values, and place them at random location.
That grid runs - easily! in the browser!! - at 1000 bpm. Forget 60 fps :)
I’ll update my comment linking to this patch so you can take a listen. It’s stunning, organic and very punk.
kookamamie 21 hours ago [-]
I'm curious - was it two and a half lines of code you contributed?
gregsadetsky 20 hours ago [-]
I was saying that in jest, ha. More like 2.5% of the code.
Very briefly, I contributed the CI pipeline that makes git push build the wasm and deploy it to a micro server that sets the specific required headers. I used the deployment tool I’ve been working on with a friend, which is called Disco.
There was something about wasm/the audio worklet requiring super specific headers - `Cross-Origin-Embedder-Policy: require-corp` … Nothing too complicated.
The other part I contributed is the loading/saving patches to Firebase, which lets people share compositions.
Zoom out using your mouse wheel/trackpad to see it all. It's realllly gorgeous if you let it run. But super, super loud at random times :-)
rwhaling 16 hours ago [-]
CLAVIER is amazing, the wire system alone is such a huge improvement over ORCA, and it's now feasible to make much larger patches and refactor safely, kudos to River for all the hard work on the polish and quality-of-life.
Cool project. I've referred people to Orca before--and the lack of "built in instruments" (and maybe the flow visualization) was a stumbling block. This feels more "consumer friendly" :)
pell 4 hours ago [-]
If you share this link on a public forum like HN you might want to add more than an error message for mobile devices so people might be incentivized to switch to desktop or bookmark it for later.
Otherwise really impressive.
scloudfox 5 hours ago [-]
Its nice invention by you may i know is it a software only ya product also you are going to feature ?
kristopolous 12 hours ago [-]
In the video, within the first 10 seconds, I should understand the offering of the product by seeing it.
You can get into the details later but right now I've got no idea what's going on here and don't know why I should invest my time in it.
You need to motivate people by showing off the thing.
Also on the phone it just says basically "go away". Once again, show me some video, song, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, something that would motivate me to switch to a desktop.
gregsadetsky 11 hours ago [-]
Apologies for the long video! I didn't want to rush too much as it's supposed to serve as a tutorial.
CLAVIER-36 is a musical instrument, so it will necessarily take some time to master it.
You can jump to 7:14 in the video - https://youtu.be/rIpQmJVMjCA?feature=shared&t=434 - to hear and see how it works. It's a grid based instrument, where you place "operators", or functions on the grid.
That's the 10 second version. The longer version will require a bit of a time investment unfortunately. But it's quite interesting once/if you get into it and start making patches.
Also, if you click OP's link - https://clavier36.com/p/LtZDdcRP3haTWHErgvdM - you should be brought to an example patch. Is that working for you? Unfortunately, a mobile version is not available right now (it would be tricky to port it, without having to dramatically rethink the UI).
Cheers
kristopolous 6 hours ago [-]
Thanks! Those were just tips and my first impression
eggy 19 hours ago [-]
Looks great, I'll have to play with it this weekend! Has a scent of Orca
Clavier is keyboard in French and German (Klavier)
36 because, just like base64 uses 64 characters, clavier uses A-Z and 0-9 :-)
xeonax 21 hours ago [-]
Can you see if you can serve the static files over cdn, might speed up the site loading speed. claviar.wasm took 4 minutes to load here. 200MBPS connection
gregsadetsky 20 hours ago [-]
Apologies, I’ll setup a proper CDN and update this message once it’s live. Thanks for the report!
chris_st 14 hours ago [-]
See also [0] Ooda and Zoa on iOS and [1] Midinous on Steam
He’s a friend, but I am very unbiased in saying that the sample-rate execution of the entire grid seems like an incredible technical achievement.
One of the craziest (super super noisy but fascinating to watch) grids uses just a few “operators” that generate random operators and random values, and place them at random location.
That grid runs - easily! in the browser!! - at 1000 bpm. Forget 60 fps :)
I’ll update my comment linking to this patch so you can take a listen. It’s stunning, organic and very punk.
Very briefly, I contributed the CI pipeline that makes git push build the wasm and deploy it to a micro server that sets the specific required headers. I used the deployment tool I’ve been working on with a friend, which is called Disco.
There was something about wasm/the audio worklet requiring super specific headers - `Cross-Origin-Embedder-Policy: require-corp` … Nothing too complicated.
The other part I contributed is the loading/saving patches to Firebase, which lets people share compositions.
But all of the audio, grid, ui is all River’s!
This is the patch:
WARNING - GETS SUPER SUPER LOUD https://clavier36.com/p/tEWcc48tFPm8qiyx9ljo WARNING - GETS SUPER SUPER LOUD
Zoom out using your mouse wheel/trackpad to see it all. It's realllly gorgeous if you let it run. But super, super loud at random times :-)
I was testing MIDI on a prerelease build last weekend and it turned out quite nice: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOUUIfeEQWY/
Excited for more folks to get to play with it!
Otherwise really impressive.
You can get into the details later but right now I've got no idea what's going on here and don't know why I should invest my time in it.
You need to motivate people by showing off the thing.
Also on the phone it just says basically "go away". Once again, show me some video, song, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, something that would motivate me to switch to a desktop.
CLAVIER-36 is a musical instrument, so it will necessarily take some time to master it.
You can jump to 7:14 in the video - https://youtu.be/rIpQmJVMjCA?feature=shared&t=434 - to hear and see how it works. It's a grid based instrument, where you place "operators", or functions on the grid.
That's the 10 second version. The longer version will require a bit of a time investment unfortunately. But it's quite interesting once/if you get into it and start making patches.
@rwhaling posted one of his compositions: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOUUIfeEQWY/ hopefully that's more what you were looking for?
Also, if you click OP's link - https://clavier36.com/p/LtZDdcRP3haTWHErgvdM - you should be brought to an example patch. Is that working for you? Unfortunately, a mobile version is not available right now (it would be tricky to port it, without having to dramatically rethink the UI).
Cheers
https://github.com/hundredrabbits/orca
36 because, just like base64 uses 64 characters, clavier uses A-Z and 0-9 :-)
0: https://www.audiosymmetric.com/ooda.html (same person for Zoa) 1: https://midinous.com
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3614060/CLAVIER36/
A Steam version is definitely coming - the biggest question re Steam Deck is how to deal with the input..
Do you use/like any other audio software on the Steam Deck?